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PROGRESSIVES FOR OBAMA

Submitted by mike hersh on 3-24-2008 – 3:21 pmComments

by Tom Hayden, Bill Fletcher, Barbara Ehrenreich, and Danny Glover

All American progressives should unite for Barack Obama. We descend from the proud tradition of independent social movements that have made America a more just and democratic country. We believe that the movement today supporting Barack Obama continues this great tradition of grass-roots participation drawing millions of people out of apathy and into participation in the decisions that affect all our lives. We believe that Barack Obama’s very biography reflects the positive potential of the globalization process that also contains such grave threats to our democracy when shaped only by the narrow interests of private corporations in an unregulated global marketplace. We should instead be globalizing the values of equality, a living wage and environmental sustainability in the new world order, not hoping our deepest concerns will be protected by trickle down economics or charitable billionaires. By its very existence, the Obama campaign will stimulate a vision of globalization from below.

As progressives we believe this sudden and unexpected new movement is just what America needs. The future has arrived. The alternative would mean a return to the dismal status quo party politics that have failed so far to deliver peace, health care, full employment and effective answers to crises like global warming.

During past progressive peaks in our political history—the late Thirties, the early Sixties—social movements have provided the relentless pressure and innovative ideas that allowed centrist leaders to embrace visionary solutions. We find ourselves in just such a situation today.

We intend to join and engage with our brothers and sisters in the vast rainbow of social movements to come together in support of Obama’s unprecedented campaign and candidacy. Even though it is candidate-centered, there is no doubt that the campaign is a social movement, one greater than the candidate himself ever imagined.

Progressives can make a difference in close primary races like Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Oregon, Puerto Rico, and in the November general election. We can contribute our dollars. We have the proven online capacity to reach millions of swing voters in the primary and general election. We can and will defend Obama against negative attacks from any quarter. We will seek Green support against the claim of some that there are no real differences between Obama and McCain. We will criticize any efforts by Democratic super-delegates to suppress the winner of the popular and delegate votes, or to legitimize the flawed elections in Michigan and Florida. We will make our agenda known at the Democratic national convention and fight for a platform emphasizing progressive priorities as the path to victory.

Obama’s March 17 speech on racism was as great a speech as ever given by a presidential candidate, revealing a philosophical depth, personal authenticity, and political intelligence that should convince any but the hardest of ideologues that he carries unmatched leadership potentials for overcoming the divide-and-conquer tactics which have sundered Americans since the first slaves arrived here in chains.

Only words? What words they were.

However, the fact that Barack Obama openly defines himself as a centrist invites the formation of this progressive force within his coalition. Anything less could allow his eventual drift towards the right as the general election approaches. It was the industrial strikes and radical organizers in the 1930s who pushed Roosevelt to support the New Deal. It was the civil rights and student movements that brought about voting rights legislation under Lyndon Johnson and propelled Eugene McCarthy and Bobby Kennedy’s anti-war campaigns. It was the original Earth Day that led Richard Nixon to sign environmental laws. And it will be the Obama movement that makes it necessary and possible to end the war in Iraq, renew our economy with a populist emphasis, and confront the challenge of global warming.

We should not only keep the pressure on, but we also should connect the issues that Barack Obama has made central to his campaign into an overarching progressive vision.

- The Iraq War must end as rapidly as possible, not in five years. All our troops must be withdrawn. Diplomacy and trade must replace further military occupation or military escalation into Iran and Pakistan. We should not stop urging Barack Obama to avoid leaving American advisers behind in Iraq in a counterinsurgency quagmire like Afghanistan today or Central America in the 1970s and 1980s. Nor should he simply transfer American combat troops from the quagmire in Iraq to the quagmire in Afghanistan.
- Iraq cannot be separated from our economic crisis. Iraq is costing trillions of dollars that should be invested in jobs, universal health care, education, housing and public works here at home. Our own Gulf Coast requires the attention and funds now spent on Gulf oil.
- Iraq cannot be separated from our energy crisis. We are spending an unheard-of $100/barrel for oil. We are officially committed to wars over oil supplies far into the future. We instead need a war against global warming and for energy independence from Middle Eastern police states and multinational corporations.

Progressives should support Obama’s 16-month combat troop withdrawal plan in comparison to Clinton’s open-ended one, and demand that both candidates avoid a slide into four more years of low-visibility counterinsurgency.

The Democratic candidates should listen more to the blunt advice of the voters instead of the timid talk of their national security advisers. Two-thirds of American voters, and a much higher percentage of Democrats, oppose this war and favor withdrawal in less than two years, nearly half of them in less than one year. The same percentage believe the war has had a negative effect on life in the United States, while only 15 percent believe the war has been positive. Without this solid peace sentiment, neither Obama nor Clinton would be taking the stands they do today.

Further, the battered and abused people of Iraq favor an American withdrawal by a 70 percent margin.

The American government’s arrogant defiance of these strong popular majorities in both America and Iraq should be ended this November by a powerful peace mandate.

The profound transition from the policies of the past will not be easy, and fortunately the Obama campaign is lifted by the fresh wind of change. We seek not only to change the faces in high places, however, but to save our country from slow death by greed, status quo politics, and loss of vision. The status quo cannot stand much longer, neither that of politics-as-usual nor that of our security, energy and economic policies. We are stealing from the next generation’s future, and living on borrowed time.

The Bush Administration has replaced the Cold War with the War on Terrorism led by the same military-industrial complex that President Eisenhower warned against. The reality and public fear of terrorism today is no less real than fear of communism and nuclear annihilation a generation ago. But we simply cannot continue multiple military interventions in many Muslim countries without increasing the vast number of violent jihadists against us, bleeding our military and our economy, becoming more dependent on Middle East oil, creating unsavory alliances with police states, shrinking our own civil liberties and putting ourselves at permanent risk of another 9/11 attack.

We need a brave turn towards peace and conflict resolution in the Middle East and the Muslim world. Getting out of Iraq, sponsoring a two-state solution between Israel and the Palestinians, ending alliances with police states in the Arab world, unilaterally initiating real energy independence and moving the world away from the global warming crises are the steps that must be taken.

Nor can we impose NAFTA-style trade agreements on so many nations that seek only to control their own national resources and economic destinies. We cannot globalize corporate and financial power over democratic values and institutions. Since the Clinton Administration pushed through NAFTA against the Democratic majority in Congress, one Latin American nation after another has elected progressive governments that reject US trade deals and hegemony. We are isolated in Latin America by our Cold War and drug war crusades, by the $500 million counter-insurgency in Columbia, support for the 2002 coup attempt in Venezuela, and the ineffectual blockade of Cuba. We need to return to the Good Neighbor policies of Franklin D. Roosevelt in the 1930s, which rejected Yankee military intervention and accepted Mexico’s right to nationalize its oil in the face of industry opposition. The pursuit of NAFTA-style trade policies inflames our immigration crisis as well, by uprooting countless campesinos who inevitably seek low-wage jobs north of the border in order to survive. We need balanced and democratically-approved trade agreements that focus on the needs of workers, consumers and the environment. The Banana Republic is a retail chain, not an American colony protected by the Monroe Doctrine.

We are pleased that Hillary Clinton has been responsive to the tide of voter opinion this year, and we applaud the possibility of at last electing an American woman president. But progressives should be disturbed at her duplicitous positions on Iraq and NAFTA. She still denies that her 2002 vote for legislation which was called the war authorization bill was a vote for war authorization. She now promises to “end the war” but will not set a timeline for combat troop withdrawal, and remains committed to leaving tens of thousands of counter-terrorism troops and trainers in Iraq amidst a sectarian conflict. While Obama needs to clarify his own position on counterinsurgency, Clinton’s “end the war” rhetoric conceals an open commitment to keep American troops in Iraq until all our ill-defined enemies are defeated—a treadmill which guarantees only the spawning of more enemies. On NAFTA, she claims to have opposed the trade deal behind closed doors when she was First Lady. But the public record, and documents recently disclosed in response to litigation, proves that she was a cheerleader for NAFTA against the strong opposition of rank-and-file Democrats. The Clintons ushered in the Wall Street Democrats whose deregulation ethos has widened inequality while leaving millions of Americans without their rightful protections against market shocks.

Clinton’s most bizarre claim is that Obama is unqualified to be commander-in-chief. Clinton herself never served in the military, and has no experience in the armed services apart from the Senate armed services committee. Her husband had no military experience before becoming president. In fact he was a draft opponent during Vietnam, a stance we respected. She was the first lady, and he the governor, of one of our smallest states. They brought no more experience, and arguably less, to the White House than Obama would in 2009.

We take very seriously the argument that Americans should elect a first woman president, and we abhor the surfacing of sexism in this supposedly post-feminist era. But none of us would vote for Condoleeza Rice as either the first woman or first African-American president. We regret that the choice divides so many progressive friends and allies, but believe that a Clinton presidency would be a Clinton presidency all over again, not a triumph of feminism but a restoration of the aging, power-driven Wall Street Democratic Hawks at a moment when so much more fresh imagination is possible and needed. A Clinton victory could only be achieved by the dashing of hope among millions of young people on whom a better future depends. The style of the Clintons’ attacks on Obama, which are likely to escalate as her chances of winning decline, already risks losing too many Democratic and independent voters in November. We believe that the Hillary Clinton of 1968 would be an Obama volunteer today, just as she once marched in the snows of New Hampshire for Eugene McCarthy against the Democratic establishment.

We did not foresee the exciting social movement that is the Obama campaign. Many of us supported other candidates, or waited skeptically as weeks and months passed. But the closeness of the race makes it imperative that everyone on the sidelines, everyone in doubt, everyone vacillating, everyone fearing betrayals and the blasting of hope, everyone quarreling over political correctness, must join this fight to the finish. Not since Robert Kennedy’s 1968 campaign has there been a passion to imagine the world anew like the passion and unprecedented numbers of people mobilized in this campaign.

TOM HAYDEN is author of Ending the War in Iraq, a five-time Democratic convention delegate, former state senator, and board member of the Progressive Democrats of America. BILL FLETCHER, JR., who originated the call for founding “Progressives for Obama,” is the executive editor of Black Commentator, and founder of the Center for Labor Renewal; BARBARA EHRENREICH is the author of Dancing in the Streets[2007] and other popular works and, with Hayden, a member of The Nation’s editorial board. DANNY GLOVER is the respected actor, activist, and chairman of the board of TransAfrica.

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  • beyondprogressive
    Isn't anyone else hearing all the things Obama is saying-- he will draw out troops from Iraq but only to dump them into Afghanistan--not to bring them back and stop the militarism of U.S. govt and foreign policy. He thinks nuclear energy is a viable part of the energy picture--what does that say about his understanding and or commitment to the environment??? Frankly I think progressives ought to be asking these questions and not just jumping on the obama bandwagon.
  • nomolos
    "As progressives we believe this sudden and unexpected new movement is just what America needs. The future has arrived. The alternative would mean a return to the dismal status quo party politics that have failed so far to deliver peace, health care, full employment and effective answers to crises like global warming."

    I think calling the obama candidacy a "new movement" is pushing the envelope just a smidgeon. He, as is clinton2, a product of big business. He is financed (bought and paid for) by big pharma, the banking industry and the military industrial complex.

    There is no doubt that he is a better bet than clinton2 but his "healthcare" initiative is nothing but a sop to the insurance industry. National healthcare will have to be a single payer system, like most sane countries, to ensure that all persons are covered equally. He has no plan that I have seen that will increase the "minimum wage" to a living wage and is still insisting that we cannot just withdraw from the illegal invasions in the ME.

    He is, I guess, the best we can do for the moment but he is in no way a true "progressive".
  • kimberlucycole
    I think it's time that groups like PDA, DFA, and MoveOn start making very vocal and very public and very aggressive calls for Hillary Clinton to end her candidacy. This prolonged race is going to cause us to lose. There is no reasonable way she can win the nomination without destroying this party. It's time people started pointing that out.
  • Brooks' OpEd in today's NY Times is right on. It's time for Hillary to gracefully bid adieu and for all of us to unite behind Barack. Of course his platform does not please us all, but his grassroots support and the fact that he listens, gives us a world of change compared to the "So!" we are not getting as a response now from the White House (which, hopefully, will come to be known as the "Hapa House").
  • l01woman
    I am strongly supporting Hillary Clinton. She has the best health plan of any of the candidates. I am an Independent Pharmacy Consultant who works with a lot of elderly individuals as well as individuals who purchase my services. I have to purchase my own insurance as well. Hillary's plan is so clever because it utilizes programs that already exist and expands them. My partner and I have said for years that we should have the same insurance as members of congress. This plan does just that! For those who can't afford this insurance they will be covered by Medicare and Medicaid. Although these programs are far from perfect this system gets us closer to Universal Health Care than any of the other programs. I'm afraid Barack Obama's program won't do anything for the majority of us. Health care in this country needs to be fixed!!! Check out SICKO. By the way, I don't understand why Michael Moore is not supporting Hillary.
  • Marcia Sherman
    I completely agree that Clinton should be pressured to give up but I don't see here doing that. As a psychologist and a sociologist, my take on her personal need to win no matter what the cost, is going to do her in as well as the election in November. I've seen this trait in too many women, including one of my own daughters, who try to pretend they are men. It's like a war to them and the mental distortions they have will not allow them the balance they need to let go when it's needed.
    I also do not believe that Obama is going to be the savior of democratic principles that we are all looking for. He's appears to be a nice guy and well-meaning but Jefferson he is not. Most Americans have been so brainwashed by the distorted media and the insane need for money which is so corrupting that they haven't the integrity to stand up for true democratic principles.
    I think we're all hoping for Jesus and his social values are still being destroyed by those who want to be king of the world.
  • thomashenley
    Our democratic party is being hijacked by the extreme left wing of the party that is out of step with the majority of Americans. If Obama is the nominee, we are sure to go down in defeat this November. We've been here before. Obama is lazy as evidenced by his non-voting record (He's on vacation right now)and he can't make a decision on difficult issues as evidenced by his "present" votes. He is a racist as evidenced by his silently agreeing with Rev Wright for 20years. He is unethical as evidenced by his association with Rezko. He is not the uniter as he claims as evidenced by his 97% voting along party lines. He is an inexperienced opportunitist who will be cut off at the knees before November. I have voted for the Democratic ticket for over 40 years but I will NOT vote this Nov if Obama is the nominee!! I am sad... and angry enough to sit this one out.
  • booger
    i have little faith that barry o is going to face up to the corporate elite who really run the country and are the main reason the mainstream media keeps the people ignorant and unable to make the right choices for their true, best interests.

    what is good about him is that he is articulate, a constitutional scholar and sort of black - symbolically very good for this country even if he unfortunately achieves little.

    kucinich is the real patriot and progressive. but, mainstream america never got to hear him because general electric who do not own the airways was allowed to push him off the dias at the last debate, thus we are stuck with less than optimal choices. so, corporate america wins again - even with the progressive movement.
    oh! how progressive we are never getting to vote for who we really want. very sad state of affairs. in modern western european parlimentary democracies they have greens, socialists, and labor sitting inside the government weilding power. that is why universal health care is a given at the get go, like municipal garbage collecting, a clean water supply, street lights that work. why militarism is kept to a minimum. where people can have some trust in their government to spend their tax dollars more wisely. and where the constant tension between corporate and social needs are on a more equal footing. their parlimentary system seems more responsive to the people.

    those wise sons and daughters of those early english expatriots who cooked up our brilliant constitution and bill of rights that even proclaimed to protect every citizen from its own government if need be - has been outfoxed by money. today, the political machinery is outdated and ineffectual. so, we are stuck with the better of the worst. big deal.
  • bluemoon
    How dare you spam people who might have participated in your initiatives before with this nonsense, without so much as an unsubscribe link. You've been reported as "junk mail."

    I will absolutely not support Barack Obama for anything let alone the presidency after I've seen him actively diminish & dismantle the achievements of the Clinton administration going so far as to tolerate if not encourage race-baiting. I'm beginning to understand profoundly why the Democrats are represented by an ass, by the way. I had a sanctimonious, holier than thou president before & as far as a mumblefish long-winded orator I gave at the office in 04, thanks.

    I sincerely almost had coffee spurt out my nose at the idea that "progressives" think the O!'s healthcare plan is superior to the Clinton plan. Just insane. How much more dogwhistling to the right can this guy do?

    You seriously need to include "unsubscribe" links in all of your corporate communications & I'd love to know how you think it's okay to use my name for this.

    Love, Pennsylvania
  • floridagramma
    I agree with l01woman and thomashenley. We need to consider the moderates among us. We need more than a symbol. We need someone who is tough and willing to work hard to make the compromises which will give us universal healthcare and solve the urgent economic problems facing this country. I understand why people want the rhetoric turned down. The Obama campaign seems determined to nit pick every slight difference in memories from more than ten years ago and call every remark made by Clinton supporters as racist. There is NO REASON HILLARY CLINTON SHOULD DROP OUT. Ten states have not had their voices heard and two states (FL and MI) have been silenced for an inappropriate rule by the DNC. True Progressives wouldn't stand for that!!
  • kgnova9
    The Dems are throwing away what looked like a slam-dunk win in November by trashing each other. It's not "good" for the party, or for us. While I'd like to see Hillary bow out now, if she's staying in I'd like to see the two campaigns agree that the first priority is to defeat John McBush in November. They should agree to stop anything negative about each other, and then show the American people which one of them is best able to paint McCain negatively. Who will be the better opponent to McCain? But they've got to stop dragging each other down, giving the McCain campaign all kinds of ideas. That being said, I agree with Hayden, et al's editorial. Obama gives me something to get excited about, and we surely need that!
  • CosmicSquirt
    I am highly disappointed that PDA has decided to follow MoveOn.org's divisive path of focusing on the primary elections rather than on the general election. This tactic only serves to further divide our party, which in the end is terrible news for any Progressive's overall cause. Sadly, I will now likely unsubscribe from all of PDA's mailings and action alerts, as I cannot support an organization whose leaders make such poor, divisive choices.
  • The trial balloon regarding a mini-convention in June is a TERRIBLE idea. That's far too late, in addition to being undemocratic. Perhaps getting the two candidates into a room along with a few party leaders such as Al Gore, Jimmy Carter, Howard Dean and John Edwards, to attempt to get the two candidates to support the most reasonable approach to ending this disaster is a better idea. We simply cannot afford any more time spent in destroying the Democratic Party with this insistent bickering. I lay it at the feet of the Clinton campaign - the group that not only stands the most to gain by doing it, but has started it every time. It is not Obama's style to want to dig in the mud. He only responds to the attacks.
  • Abu Zeina
    While not busy dodging bullets in Bosnia or posting her tax returns on PDA's blogs, Senator Clinton took time to suggest that while Senator Obama is unfit to be Commander-in-Chief, the presumptive Republican nominee, Senator McCain, is, like herself, of course, fully qualified. With her bountiful hubris / chutzpah, I'm surprised she didn't offer the VEEP spot to McCain.
  • stillcool
    I am truly shocked at what the Clinton Campaign and many supposed Progressives have participated in this Campaign Season. It is long past time for it to stop. There is so much riding on this election. This may be the last chance we have before our society collapses in on itself. I am begging people to stop it. Fanning the flames of racial divide as part of the scorched earth strategy is going to result in a lot of people getting burned. There is no good that will come of this. The Iraq War, Health care, the Economy, and other issues of importance now, will be the least of our worries if we fail to come together as citizens of the United States of America.
  • loretta
    March 17th speech "only words?" The speech was given by a man who attends a racist church! So the message was "Do what I say, not what I do?" Obama is right - I did have "uncles" who were racist 40 years ago. But none of them died that way, because of the rest of our family's refusual to listen to that crap. Obama's church seems to be intent on making sure that even the next generation of black children grow up angry and racist, and Obama's little girls are fed that ugliness each time they attend and are taught about the "United States of White America." This is what "progressive democrats" have been waiting for?

    And don't get me started on his understanding of sexism - or as he put it, the fact that some women are still facing a glass ceiling in the workplace. Really? I guess us bitches and ho's really have come a long way. Apparantly, in Obama's judgement, our corporate media is right - Hillary is just a "whiner." (And "cold" too!)

    That aside, if a candidate truly intends to lead us in a different direction, he or she should totally repudiate the lies and criminal activities of the Bush Administration. Sadly, neither of these Democratic candidates have stood up for our Constitution by demanding Impeachment. Obama actually said that he doesnt believe that the actions of the Bush Administration are "grave enough" to warrant impeachment. Of the two Democratic candidates still standing, Hillary is the only one with a good (and obvious) excuse for steering clear of the Impeachment issue, and she's the candidate that will get my vote.
  • andrews
    I did not vote for Hillary Clinton in the primary and I will not vote for her should she win the nomination, which seems unlikely. Nevertheless, she has the right to continue her campaign no matter how flawed. To call for her to bow out before all the primaries have been concluded is not only divisive, but unfair to the thousands of people still left to cast their primary votes. How do you know that she might not take all the remaining primaries and garner enough delegates to win the nomination? As for Obama, I am not convinced he is our great hope. He too has accepted money from corporations, given out earmarks, such as $8 million to General Dynamics, a weapons producer. And he voted to fund a war that he claims he opposes. His health care plan includes the insurance companies, the very entities that are responsible for the huge health-care costs. And his Iraq stance relating to withdrawing troops is unacceptable to me. I fear Obama is pretty much the same old, same old. I'm tired of holding my nose and voting for someone I don't really trust simply so a democrat can win. We have seen what the Democrats in Congress have done, or not done, when they gained control. I will be voting for a third party.
  • @T
    I'm hanging in for John Edwards, thanks. The guy with the guts.
    This tortured essay does nothing to change that: how birthday-suit celebrity has anything to do with "personal authenticity", I don't know.
  • I supported Edwards till he dropped out, then voted for Obama for many of the reasons Hayden voices. There is a grassroots movement, including many young people, that has responded to Obama.
    I have been aware of his support of nuclear power, and several choices he's made that seemed unnecessary to me (there was no need to go to Connecticut to speak for Lieberman before the primary with Ned Lamont). Still, politics is the art of the possible, and our choice in the Democratic party is between Hillary- a dishonest, power-hungry person who perceives PDA type progressives as her enemies-- and Obama, a younger guy with some great skills, genuine intelligence and abilities to listen to others and think deeply about issues. I'm sure he will disappoint us at times, if elected. He also could galvanize and empower progressive change. We know Hillary won't. Obama is likely to see us a significant part of his constituency, and toconsider our thinking on various issues. He's the best of the options at present, unless neither he nor Hillary win enough delegates for a first ballot nomination, and an open convention considers a different alternative (Edwards? Gore?) Very unlikely, and not worth holding one's breath.
  • Lani
    Tom Haydn and you leaders of PDA should hang your heads low. First of all you've adopted and espouse the Healthcare not Warfare campaign originally started by CodePINK and now you then endorse Obama whose healthcare plan essentially kills single payer universal healthcare?
    Your organization has TOTALLY lost all credibility!
  • coxsouth
    When will PDA and America in general WAKE UP! I will not cast a vote for Senator Obama. I want the best for our country. Obama is NOT the best by a long shot. If he bocomes the nominee we can kiss the white house goodbye...McCain will win. Stop putting Hillary down and calling for her to pull out. She is our only hope now. Go Hillary!
  • Dave Summers, M.D.
    The "mania" of Obamamania is not what is needed, even though inspiration is desirable, especially Obama's appeal for "e pluribus unum" & the need for us to move forward by embracing all, regardless of color, race & economic status. But I've emphasized Obama's need to see the merits of church & state separation, as mandated by the First Amendment, and as JFK so eloquently expressed in his speech to the Greater Houston Ministerial Association in 1960. We don't need another national preacher, as George Bush has been, ignoring the dangers of imposing religious fantasy & fanaticism - equally as detrimental to democracy's survival as Islamic extremism or Christian fundamentalism or the extremism of any other faith. Nor should Obama's delusions about a "kingdom" & religious "truths" be allowed to impose on scientific facts & the unequivocal superiority of critical analysis & the scientific method over supernaturalism's nonsense. Hillary, in my view, has been less inclined to commingle religion with governance, whle America's and the world's need for a female President virtually equals our need for a black Commander-in-Chief. If Obama would abandon his religious nonsense better than he has negated his pastor's racist divisiveness, he would become a better choice for President than Clinton. But hope, whether practical or false, still "springs eternal", and we must not confuse Obama's religious leanings with those of Dr. King, who appreciated the mandate that faith & governance must remain separate and that freedom of conscience for citizens is guaranteed only when the Judicial, Legislative & Executive branches of our government retain strict freedom from commingling with sectarianism, supernaturalism & their inherently dictatorial threat to our Democracy.
  • Joel99
    It is unsettling how much I agree with certain aspects of the arguments of both groups of supporters of Clinton and Obama. I agree that Obama has certain regressive stances on several issues. Currently living in Canada I agree that Clinton's health care plan is superior. Nonetheless what I see as a ruthless (and yes I know that sexism has played a huge part in the criticism of Clinton) and opportunistic dishonesty on Clinton's part leaves me unable to support her. I have come to believe that Obama is more flexible, open-minded and eclectic in his experiences than Clinton and that these are the most important characteristics that we need in our leaders. I know that the revulsion I feel when I see the sexist crap that colors the criticism of Clinton must be even more intense for women. I still cannot support her. I guess it comes down to that I trust her less that Obama. And ultimately I trust neither all that much... which brings me back to an old anarchist slogan which gives me pause...A change of rulers is the joy of fools. I still am going with Obama.
  • Your comment that it took a movement to get FDR act, and even Nixon, is the most crucial point. We won't get change unless we have a movement that presses for change. To have a movement, we must be inspired; we must have our idealism encouraged. Only Obama is able to do this. He will allow the voice of the people to be heard; no one else.
  • DrEdF
    Are you smoking crack? Wake up people! Osama Obama is going to destroy both our Democratic party and our chance to retake the White House. Obama is an opportunistic hate mongering racist!
  • smeehan
    The time has come for us to rally behind Obama. He is the only candidate with an overall, fully-integrated (pun here, folks!) vision for our country. We are truly lucky that this vision brings together the rich vein of progressive thought – it need not have been that way. All kinds of people from every demographic trust him instinctively; I could see that first-hand canvassing for Obama in Philadelphia last week. Especially because his opponent will not concede until the last possible minute, it is most important that we frame this contest positively and pro-actively. We will gain from this, as his fine values will be displayed in high chiaroscuro against the tawdry willingness of his opponent to do as much harm as possible. We've got a first-rate candidate; let's get him elected and rebuild America's good name. . It can be done, it is time, let's do it!, and do it right. Smeehan, Wellesley, '60
  • To be "progressive" means to embrace change. To embrace change requires leadership. To lead requires the ability to include, and unite, as many people from as many walks of life, race, ethnic backgrounds, and worldviews as possible. The only candidate running for office, Democrat, Republican, or Independent who has the ability to do this is Barack Obama.

    A vote for Obama is a vote for the politics of inclusion, and the possibility, however remote, for world peace.
  • Take a moment to look around at this state we are in... go on.... look! We are constantly trying to strangle someone or something we don't like, or dare I say hate! Even ourselves and fellow progressives who see things slightly differently. We are angry and pissy, feed up and ready to run away because as a petulant child, we don't get all that we want. Sorry folks, that time is now gone. We are the power only if we stay and take it back. The Clinton DLC is the power now, and they are working to block and win at any cost even if it means destroying the party. They are only on their death throws if we keep the pressure on. Folks, it's our party, and they can't destroy it if we don't let them. Some of us may not like Obama or Clinton on certain issues of policy, that's fine, that's issues... but when it comes to how you control and play the game at any cost, laying waste to issues with a campaign of mutual destruction as the Clintons are doing now... you must stand up and say enough!

    I've personally stayed out of this race since John Edwards was pushed out... and I'm not seeing that Obama has been officially endorsed by PDA which is also fine with me. But I'm talking to each and every one of you out there reading this. You better be ready to hold candidates accountable, for they will disappoint you, they will as all politicians do, fudge you and nudge you as they are pushed and nudged in the need to get money and votes. This is the system we must change... this is not the time to run away!

    The writers of this article have raised specific and excellent points, and I applaud their key point... Obama is closer to raising the hope required for people to follow, and its time to end the DLC hold on our party. Why? Because they are the minority and we are the growing majority. I too do not agree with all his positions, and he does appear to be DLC light... but that's better than DLC hard core at this moment to me. Yet the real issue here is that it is time to take our party back! It is time to take our country back! We are here to perceiver and grow, we can not afford to be impatient and petulant, we must stay focused and continue to organize, fund and support Congressional Progressive Democrats so that whom ever gets into the White House, we will continue to hold the leaderships feet to the fire.

    We must do the same with Obama should he win... and we must stop the DLC who has blocked us at every turn!

    We will achieve Single Payer Healthcare... BECAUSE WE GET INSIDE, ORGANIZE AND DEMAND IT!
    We will achieve Vote Owned Clean Money full public funded elections... BECAUSE WE GET INSIDE, ORGANIZE AND DEMAND IT!
    We will get our nation out of Iraq and stop the growth of the destructive Military Media Industrial Complex... BECAUSE WE GET INSIDE, ORGANIZE AND DEMAND IT!
    We will stop Global Climate Change from Global Warming... BECAUSE WE GET INSIDE, ORGANIZE AND DEMAND IT!
    We will re-establish a sustainable economic system that is fair and just... BECAUSE WE GET INSIDE, ORGANIZE AND DEMAND IT!
    We will re-establish our civil rights and liberties... BECAUSE WE GET INSIDE, ORGANIZE AND DEMAND IT!
    We will rebuild our infrastructure and our educational systems... BECAUSE WE GET INSIDE, ORGANIZE AND DEMAND IT!
    We will remove corporate control of our government and our election process... BECAUSE WE GET INSIDE, ORGANIZE AND DEMAND IT!

    Let me be as clear now as I can possibly be... it is not the candidate that makes the difference, its the will of the people! PDA is a lot of good people working for good things for all people. We start from the bottom up and we grow from a strong foundation.

    That foundation is YOU! No matter who the candidate is... they must follow, and we must lead, or the system fails once again.
  • jen
    I have to wonder when information contained in the following article will be acknowledged by the the press, and thus, become known to the many people who honestly believe Obama is some kind of "different."

    Please read this and you will understand why the press, Wall Street, the establishment Dems and many Repubs are supporting Obama.

    The Obama Bubble: Why Wall Street Needs a Presidential Brand

    at Black Agenda Report

    by Pam Martens

    Despite Barack Obama's claim that his campaign represents a mass "movement" of "average folks," the initial core of his support was largely comprised of rich denizens of Wall Street. Why would the super wealthy want a percieved "black populist" to become the nation's chief executive officer? The "Obama bubble" was nurtured by Wall Street in order to have a friend in the White House when the captains of capital are made to face the legal consequences for deliberately creating current and past economic "bubbles." Wall Street desperately needs a president who will "sweep all the corruption and losses, would-be indictments, perp walks and prosecutions under the rug and get on with an unprecedented taxpayer bailout of Wall Street." Who better to sell this "agenda to the millions of duped mortgage holders and foreclosed homeowners in minority communities across America than our first, beloved, black president of hope and change?" ...

    You've all been bamboozled... hookwinked... Please wake up before it's too late.
  • bethshep
    If this "war" is criminal, immoral, and inflaming the insurgency (and it is) why is it OK to "set a time schedule" or "begin" to bring the troops home? We need to load them in trucks and bring them home yesterday! As Cindy Sheehan says, it is criminal to allow even one more person, American or Iraqi, to die for a lie. Cheney's excuse is if we do that thousands will die. I got news for him .. thousands ARE dying!
  • phyllis
    I find it so offensive that anyone, particularly a democratic spokesperson, would suggest that either candidate should get out of the race. Several of the traits that identify us as Americans are that "anyone can be president", "dream big", "work hard to fulfill your dreams". These are lessons my parents taught me, and these lessons helped me to work two or three jobs per term from scratch to Ph.D., while raising two teenage girls by myself.

    How dare anyone suggest that Hillary should just move aside, quit, and let Obama have the prize they are both seeking as part of the American dream
  • tampaguy69
    I was a longtime supporter of the Clintons. However, in this campaign I chose to support Obama. I am sick of 16 years of polarization in which nothing positive occurs (LOTS of negatives since bush siezed the reins). I am confident that the country wants to move past this. Hillary simply cannot win the presidency even if she were to sieze the nomination. I urge everyone to contact her campaign and demand that she cease this fruitless, destructive quest for the nomination. If she ever cared about America (which I am beginning to doubt) she would graciously bow out and allow Obama to begin his campaign against McBush. I have contacted Clinton's campaign and would urge everyone else to do likewise.
  • @T
    The more I look at this piece -- Barbara Ehrenreich notwithstanding -- the less it appeals:

    "During past progressive peaks in our political history—the late
    Thirties, the early Sixties—social movements have provided
    the relentless pressure and innovative ideas that allowed
    centrist leaders to embrace visionary solutions. We find
    ourselves in just such a situation today."

    Riiight. Except that the whole population's every move is surveilled, and there doesn't particularly seem to BE a "vast rainbow of social movements" waiting to be inspired by rich aging radicals.
    -----
    "fortunately the Obama campaign is lifted by the fresh wind of
    change."

    OH, yes: John Kerry, Republican General McPeak. One can hardly contain one's revolutionary zeal.
    -----
    "We can and will defend Obama against negative attacks from
    any quarter."

    Quite a few people on the left are protecting Obama not only again "negative" attacks (is there ANOTHER kind?), but against ordinary scrutiny of ANY kind -- and when it comes to the ravaging of Clinton (whom I think I despise, politically speaking, as much as anyone), the so-called left is undoing eons of struggle against sexism.

    I'm OPEN to the idea that this is something other than the racist and totalitarian nonsense that it appears to be, but somebody will have to explain it better than this.

    What the left SHOULD be doing, I expect, is working to be sure that NEITHER of these corporate "post-partisans" is the Democratic Party nominee. As for me, if John Edwards -- the guy with the guts and the politics, who like Howard Dean before him was deliberately derailed by the media and the "leadership" -- isn't the Democratic Party nominee, I'll pass on voting for president.
  • rufescens
    I cannot express how disheartened I am with the PDA. "All American progressives should unite for Barack Obama?" Is that your idea of democracy, deciding for others whom they should support?

    Does Barbara Ehrenreich believe that Obama's healthcare plan offers an alternative to the interests of private corporations? How does she think his plan, which will not cover everyone, be twice as expensive for the consumer as Clinton's (according to economist Jonathan Gruber), and fine people without insurance who end up needing healthcare, will help the sort of impoverished working folk she highlighted in her book "Nickel and Dimed?" And does she think that having Jim Cooper--the Tennessee representative with strong ties to the health insurance industry who was instrumental in derailing Clinton's healthcare plan in the 90's--campaigning for Obama is a sign of liberation from corporate influence. Indeed, does Obama's claim of not accepting corporate campaign money, while, in fact, accepting money from corporate executives and vice-executives, not strike her as, shall I say it, duplicitous?

    And what about Obama's claim to progressive fame--his supposed opposition to the war, expressed in a speech in 2002 while representing Hyde Park--a liberal district--within Illinois? He also spoke against funding the war in 2003. Yet, when campaigning for the Senate in 2004, he moderated his position, claiming that, at that point, he had no differences in policy with Bush. And when finally in the Senate, he repeatedly voted to fund the war. So who's duplicitous with respect to the war?

    Sure, Clinton voted to allow Bush to go to war. Clearly, something was very wrong in our government at the time. Even Kucinich, a liberal favorite, failed to vote against going to war. To me, however, Obama's equivocations with respect to his position do not elevate him above any other candidate.

    Shall we tackle the issue of the "flawed" primary elections in Florida and Michigan? If you'll excuse me, has there been a part of the primary election thus far that has not been flawed? Are caucuses democratic? Is it democratic to restrict voting to those who can spare several hours of their day (or late night, if you consider, for instance, Texas), and are willing to stand making their votes public, being shouted down by opponents, and potentially not having their votes count at all? What about all the spending involved in the campaigns? Obama outspent Clinton two to one in Texas and Ohio (his supporters, on average, have much more money)! Does that make an election fair? From that particular perspective, Florida's was the least flawed vote--with everyone's name on the ballot, and no campaigning, no candidate had a monetary advantage.

    In any case, do Hayden, Fletcher, Ehrenreich and Glover support completely discounting the voters of two states--one of which is the fourth most populous in the union?

    I have not even touched on the clear media bias in favor of Obama--is that democratic? Is that not flawed?

    And let me not forget the issue of the environment. How will Obama's support for the dirty coal industry of Illinois help the fight against global warming?

    Care to know whom I think progressives ought to consider endorsing? How about a woman who has worked hard her whole life to advance the causes of the environment and children's and women's rights? From her decision to make the Children's Defense Fund her first career, to her success, as the first female board member of Walmart, in forcing the board to promote women to management positions for the first time, and to build an environmentally friendly building (now still serving as a model for "green" malls), and beyond, Hillary Clinton to me represents a person truly interested in the welfare of the earth, and traditionally disadvantaged people. Even her (failed) attempt to give us all healthcare in the 90's--I praise her for that. It was an ambitious, brave, and important task. It failed, in great part due to Jim Cooper, but it was attempted. Even now, while campaigning she has continued to work hard. She has hardly missed any votes in the Senate (Obama missed about a third of the votes), and she regularly holds hearings within her committee (Obama has yet to hold one). Of the two, she has the stronger record with respect to progressive causes, and is the harder worker.

    Forevermore, I will be a Hillary Clinton supporter.
  • Abu Zeina
    Jen (above) quotes Black Agenda Report, "Despite Barack Obama’s claim that his campaign represents a mass “movement” of “average folks,” the initial core of his support was largely comprised of rich denizens of Wall Street." She then wonders when such an assertion "will be acknowledged by the the press."

    The answer is that the press tells another story: "As senator from New York, Clinton has received the most money from employees of large Wall Street firms. Bear Stearns employees contributed the most to Clinton with total donations of $152,000. Likely Republican nominee John McCain received $47,000 from Bear Stearns employees and Obama got $36,000."
    -Associated Press "Obama, Clinton Cite Economic Distress" March 17, 2008
  • bethshep
    Why is everybody ignoring Ralph Nader? He is the only one talking about the real issues progressives supposedly care about:
    single payer national health insurance, cutting the military budget, rejecting nuclear power and promoting solar, cracking down on corporate crime and corporate welfare (the root cause of all of the above issues), opening the Presidential debates, adopting a carbon polution tax, reversing U.S. policy in the Middle East, impeaching Bush/Cheney, repealing the Taft-Hartley anti-union law (another root cause of many of our troubles), adopting a Wall Street securities speculation tax, putting an end to ballot access obstructionism, and -- the mother of all citizen problems .. working to end corporate personhood. And by the way, you should listen to his running mate, Matt Gonzalez. He is young, knowledgeable, enthusiastic and inspiring, and he knows how to fight. Believe me, it is a dream ticket!
  • bushrod
    I get the impression some of the above people who comment don't appreciate what an unusual candidate Obama is. Certainly, his political skills are superior to eveybodys' excepting President Clinton's...and Obama actually believes what he says unlike President Clinton.
    But the overconfident, "I know what's going on" attitude, or certainty, of some of the above remarks is dismaying.
    Democracy may not work unless we undertake the calm, quiet work of citzenship. And admit that we may be wrong, we may not be omniscent.
  • Bill
    Its to bad that PDA has decided to divide the democratic party even further apart by endorsing Obama and trashing Hillary. As a PDA supporter since its inception, I can no longer support PDA.
    McCain must be laughing. As Bill Mahrer says " I wonder how the Dems are going to blow it this time?" PDA has just given him a partial answer.
  • Ernest Canning
    Appearing on Democracy Now with George McGovern, Jim Hightower said it best: "The significant thing about the Obama phenomena is not him, it's the phenomena, the fact that we have millions of new voters, excited voters, people who have not been voting in the past, but who feel that this time they matter and that they have a potential not just to send Obama to the White House, but for them to go into the White House, not just the party operatives, not just the usual special interests, but for the people themselves to be able to go in. I don't think anybody thinks that Obama--and I don't even think he thinks that there's any sainthood here, there's any magic going to come, just by him being president. But with him, I think we've got a potential to have a real progressive government, because the people themselves would be a force in it."

    I quite agree with those posters expressing reservations about specific Obama policy positions. We certainly need to press for single-payer healthcare, vast reductions in military spending and a way out of Afghanistan as well as Iraq. But progressives should view the Obama candidacy as a starting point to bringing these about; not the end in itself. Sorry, Bill, but Hillary is "not" a progressive--never was. She is a one-time member of the Wal-Mart Board of Directors, a corporate lawyer whose husband betrayed American labor when he joined with Reagan/Bush in ramming NAFTA & the WTO through Congress on the fast track. As to Nader, while I couldn't agree more on policy, faced with the prospect of John "stay in Iraq for 100 years & bomb, bomb, bomb Iran" McCain, I don't think any "responsible" progressive can afford the luxury of casting a third party vote.
  • dshoes
    I agree. While I must admit that I at first was supporting Hillary (and voted for her in our state's primary), her surrogates and others in her campaign have been engaging in things that are divisive, and I don't like to hear the media constantly talking about "if the Dems can unite". So, I hereby throw my support behind Barrack Obama and hope that he and his administration can begin to undo all the b.s. that we have had to endure over the last 7+ yrs. of Chimpy and Darth Cheney.
  • bobnbama
    Obama will be the next president. Why would you think beating the Clintons would be easy? The Clinton clan had eight years rerailing in impeachment for lying to Congress and doing more damage to my democratic party than the Republicans could do for 200 years. Enough and shut up. You simply retch because you're losing and you simply can't comprehend it. Can you comprehend chemically bombing a defenseless oil reserve for five years for trillions and trillions and trillions in oil contracts for the boys?? Hillary and McCain had a picnic on barstools in the Greenback Zone, way back, extolling the virtues of slaughtering "barbarians" to privatize the second largest oil reserve on the planet so the oil boys can bank tax free from their 300 foot yachts Blood For Oil while sucking frosty margaritas served by bikini clad sea nympths one third their age while little Bubba gets his face blown off for corporate oil enrichment. Obama understands terrorism is about Home Rule and we have to enable Iraqis to share their oil resources rather than stealing them, leaving rather than building 14 bases and stop pouring billions into Hunt Oil's new oil colony, Oilamundo!! Clinton will never win so buckle up and remain Democratic. If you think it can't get worse then vote for Mister Magoo!!
  • floridagramma
    "It is not Obama's style to want to dig in the mud," says grimbear. Oops!! I guess you haven't been listening to the Obama campaign people. Every word out of Hillary and Bill Clinton's mouths are ridiculed by these surrogates. I find it extremely divisive. If Obama doesn't want that kind of campaign, he should ask them to stop. He just wants to win, no matter what it takes.
  • ktkeller
    I think that PDA should endorse the Democratic nominee. Period. Without presumption of outcome and without endorsement at this time.

    We should vociferously encourage the nominees to target McCain. Personal attacks between Democrats by campaign surrogates threaten our ability to win in November. I do not think PDA should enter into that fray as an organization. However, PDA should encourage the SuperDelegates to move us to a decided nominee shortly after the last primary. If the party does not get our candidate named in the June timeframe, we do risk the election.

    I say this as an Obama supporter who decided to support Obama a while ago. I hope that PDA members can continue to speak for why they strategically support Obama or Clinton based on: defeating the Republican lead nightmare that has occurred for virtually the last 28 years, building the progressive movement and creating the opening for some achievement of what this country needs. But, that is only interesting for folks in states that are still in play - including primaries and higher levels of caucuses.

    Frankly, my decision is based on: What will build the movement in Seattle within the Democratic Party is to support Obama. What will energize voters and voter registration in my extremely Democratic and progresive legislative district is an Obama candidacy.

    A basic understanding that the President leads and sets the agenda AND that CONGRESS legislates is missing from most of the debates among progresives, especially in the debate I have with people who have virtually given up electoral politics and feel comfortable sitting around being smugly superior. We NEED a Democrat in the White House given that the alternative is a Republican and given what McCain puts out there as the 'agenda'. Did anyone even listen to ANY of the Republican debates?

    Just as sorely, PDA needs to keep the focus on endorsing and supporting members of Congress who WILL legislate, not taking sides in an internecine battle.
  • dancermama
    Bravo! Cuodos to Tom Hayden, Bill Fletcher, Barbara Ehrenreich, and Danny Glover. You got it right.
  • BonnieRionda
    Progressives? Where are you? If I weren't so incensed about your "progressive" slamming of Hillary Clinton, I could potentially and whole-heartedly support Obama. Even though he will get my vote if he is the nominee, I will not in any way work for his campaign after such an outpouring of male chauvinism rearing its ugly head. It makes me more committed to help elect a woman named HILLARY president. Get over your mysogyny, you progressives. You're turning neo-Con before my eyes.
  • beltwayannie
    Hey PDA-
    Too bad about the short notice regarding the Clinton and Obama calls scheduled for Wednesday night -- with less than a day’s notice, I, myself, cannot participate.
    Even though the Obamenom has clearly swept PDA, I would like to have thrown a little support behind the Clinton folks (and find out if there’s more than one) and gotten on the call.
    I have to agree with one post here suggesting that all PDA has done is further deepen the rift among (progressive) Dems by creating the two camps, though.
    And I am also sad to see such wise and experienced people as Hayden, Glover Fletcher and Ehrenreich (who taught me half of everything I know through her writings!) falling for the Rorschach strategy and willing to believe Obama is leading a social movement just because he says so.
    Far as I can tell, he’s running a campaign for his party’s presidential nomination. And it’s the most expensive one in history for that matter. I know, I know, Small donors, bla bla bla. But since when did progressives concede that clicking over to a contribution page counts as democratic participation?
    Please keep us informed about future Clinton calls – I’m eager to help get a competent leader who actually likes government into the White House.
    Thanks!
    And if anyone from the Clinton group is reading this, I’m at beltway.annie-AT-gmail.com.
  • Thad Williamson
    This is an excellent statement by PDA. The most important part is recognizing that what's at stake is not simply a choice between two individuals, but between two styles of politics, one which is squarely establishment, top-down, and run by corporate lobbyists, the other which is participatory and dependent on local grassroots organizations. I believe there is zero possibility for advancing any significant part of the progressive agenda without sustained grassroots mobilization in 2009 and beyond, no matter who is president. Obama, I believe, understands this and is actively looking to partner with citizen groups. Hillary promises to do much FOR citizens; Obama promises to work WITH citizens. This is a fundamental, not superficial difference, and offers the first hint of real promise in our national politics in a very long time. The statement by the PDA simply recognizes reality: the Obama campaign is the first significant, large-scale popular, progressive and (not least) cross-racial movement of the 21st century. Like the authors, I wasn't on board at the start of this campaign, but I am now.
  • billtc
    The vitriol in some of these posts is astounding. PDA has made an endorsement, for crying out loud! Endorsements are made all the time, and many people are inevitably disappointed with them. But it hardly warrants reporting PDA emails to the FCC as spam. Truth be told, neither of the two remaining Democratic candidates is a true progressive. I started off supporting Edwards, and was disappointed when he dropped out, because neither of the two remaining candidates (both water carriers for corporate America)speak for me. But all of us who tend to support Democrats are going to have to get past our disappointments in this election and decide to work for the eventual Democratic nominee. Otherwise we'll end up with a president McCain, which will effectively amount to a third bush term. I don't think our republic can survive that.
  • Danish Brethren
    Here's the Progressive Strategy:
    Link the cost of the Iraq War (1.3 trillion) to our economic condition, e.g. 49 million uninsured Americans and no progress on universal Health Care, New Orleans still not rebuilt with gaping failures in law enforcement and several hospitals and schools shut down, national infrastructure crumbling, 22 million Americans facing foreclosure, increasing cost of college education and failure of student loan programs to make this realistic, rampant homelessness, labor movement stymied by Corporate abuse of 12 million undocumented workers, no progress on alternative energy nor building new oil refineries, etc....

    That's how we push a populist agenda while ending rampant military spending, whoever the candidate is (and BTW, I think Obama is a good one for our purposes).
  • PAWNelson
    Sorry, but Obama seems like nothing but the most shameless of opportunists, one who makes pleasant promises and criticisms while eagerly parking knives in the backs of competitors, pretending to smooth over controversies while jockeying for personal advantages and ignoring the common good and relevant history of important past battles. As smooth as he is, nothing he has said or done overcomes his fundamental lack of integrity, as he seeks the highest office, with barely a whisper of a meaningful record. Don't be too surprised when he turns on you, and fails to deliver - he has insufficient patience, and he will compromise everything you give him, as he becomes an ineffectual and corrupt president, rivaling Hoover and Bush. Needless to say, he is probably good friends with Pastor Wright, who appropriately supports such a clever, dishonest, hypocritical monstrosity running for President.
  • Bizz
    Since we are Donkeys we should get behind the Democrat Hillary Clinton. To not do this, at this time, for our party you have chosen to be mules.
    As you know mules never make more mules they just die.
    This infatuation with a mythical person that each of you envision is beginning to be laughable. Are you waiting for him to be called to testify in the Rezko trial? The voters are shocked by his 20 year "hate messages" Fox will start talking about Ayers anyday. How much more do you need to learn about him. Change is good, change for the survival of our party is better. You need to rethink our goal. We want the Republicans out!
    It is now time for you to understand we must have Hillary Clinton as our candidate. Oh yes,, maybe you should just wait and let the Republicans tell you everyday until November Obama's flaws. They are already intimating he is weak, as they laughed and said, he would make a nice bobble head.,,,
    Hillary Clinton has served us for a number of years. She has publicly supported women's health in speeches. She has attended marches to help women. We already know she will protect Roe vs Wade.R with supreme court apts. Maybe you can understand why older women support her and would not vote for Obama.
    Every debate, from the from the first to last, she was talking about how bad Bush was and how we must correct his mistakes. She was the only candidate with the strength to do this.
    . She came out first with a Universal Health plan, the others followed. While Obama is basking in the sun she is still working daily. She described what to do with the mortgage crisis. Lo and behold Bush is now suggesting her plan. This week she came out with an economy package. Economy, the most important topic to our voters. McCain admits he doesn't know anything about it. You can bet his VP Romney does.
    She is organized and progressive and gets the job done. She will work for us. Stop listening to all Republican media all the time. It is poison. We need her in Washington now, and we really need your strength and support.
  • Robert For Obama
    Wow! This sounds like the Hillary Clinton Blog. Not sure how you can be a Progressive Democrat and support Hillary Clinton.

    The Clintons are the past and Obama is the future. Please Hillary supporters, I once thought well of her too, until about 6 weeks ago when she started the evil negative smear campaign against Obama. It's pathetic. With Hillary it's all about her. Have no idea why people are still supporting her after the lies and secrets (why isn't she publishing her earmarks or her tax returns? Obama did.) and Karl Rove style attacks on Obama. Is this really who you want for President? Someone with no integrity and who is carrying out a slash and burn campaign against her worthy opponent?

    Way to go, Tom Hayden and PDA. Thank you for supporting Barack Obama for President. Thank you for having vision.
  • SusanSPastin
    I heard on the 6 a.m. news (but NOT on the 7 a.m. news) that Obama's minister Rev. Wright was forced to cancel two speaking engagements due to security threats! Is this true? I'm from Chicago and know Trinity United Church of God to be integrated and a real asset to the community. If white racist domestic terrorists are threatening Wright's right to speak, we should stand with him - morally, physically, financially!
  • bobnbama
    The extended Clinton Clan cannot believe they're losing. It's what losers do. The Clintons had their time at bat and they pardoned thieves, screwed interns on our flag and sent a million jobs to China. You'll never bat again and there's a reason for it. Stand up and dust yourself off and stop being racists. It's distracting and annoying. One last thing. Stop murdering colored chillen for oil wealth.
  • againstobama
    Isn't amazing that whenever a black individual issues a racist comment all is right with the world. Good, I'm glad he was forced to cancel two speaking engagements with white racist rhetoric that he is uttering. I will not vote for racist Senator Obama Hussin Barrack and will switch my alliance to the Republican candidate as many Clinton supporters will do. Good luck on getting this racist elected. Many have lost respect for this man.
  • BrotherBill
    Why all the vitriol? Could it be because the right wing media and the beltway elite established our candidates for us? We have the best government money can buy! True progressives didn't nominate either one of these candidates. If progressives had their way, Dennis Kucinich or John Edwards would be on the ticket. The question we progressive are now faced with is who to choose from the annointed candidates.

    Hillary comes with a lot of baggage. There is no denying that. Bill Clinton gave us "Three strikes and your out", "NAFTA","War on welfare moms", "Corporate Welfare", Presidential pardons for corporate criminals(Michael Milken, Etc.), go along to get along(Republican lite), and moral disgrace(Monica Lewinski, etc.). He became a total tool for the Republicans during the second half of his second term. People are tired of the Bush to Clinton, Clinton to Bush, Bush to Clinton dynasty.

    Hillary adds her own baggage. Number one, she voted for "The War Powers Act". She derailed the efforts to defund the war by progressive democrats, with her and Senator Byrds idea to push a vote to reverse "The War Powers Act", and then she never followed up on it. She voted to continue to fund the war. She voted to list the Iranian Qud forces as terrorist, potentially giving Bush another excuse to start another war in the Middle East. She helped to create the predatory health care system that we have today. And she did it behind closed doors. She has election finance fraud charges pending against her in the great state of California. On September 11, 2007 Hillary was pimping out Democratic law makers to Pentagon and Homeland Security Contractors to the bundling tune of $25,000. What Hillary says now, and what she has actually done and said in the past, often don't match up. She is a flip flopper, and will say and do anything to get elected. She certainly isn't above negative campaign strategies and she would devide the party down race and gender lines.

    There are many things about Barack's ideas that I find objectionable. His pro coal sequestration and pro nuclear power ideas, I find very disturbing from an environmental perspective. Barack's Health care policy leaves much to the imagination. I personally would have never voted to fund the Iraq War. Not even once. If it is wrong, it is wrong. We should have never gone and we should get out. However, Barack showed good judgement when good judgement wasn't favorable, before the Iraq Fiasco ever started. I knew, millions of Americans knew, and hundreds of millions around the world knew that the Iraq claims were a farce. So why didn't Hillary know? Was it more go along to get along? More bipartisanship? Republican lite? I feel that Barack gave a very thoughtful speech about race relations in this country. You may not agree. The MSM certainly didn't agree. He has also given a speech on the Iraq quagmire and the link between the cost of the war and our faultering economy. These speeches show a grasp of the issues facing our country, and a vision for correcting our course. Barack has attempted to stay above the fray of negative attacks. It became impossible. There is no there there, in the Rezko Real Estate scandal. Pastor Wright's comments were divisive and wrong but so is most of the Faux pas crap we see on the News everyday. Do I disagree with what has been said? Yes, but it is Pastor Wright's right to free speach that I defend. Despite what people might think, Barack is powerless over the thoughts and speeches of other people, as it should be in a democratic society. There is no there there. The Clinton camp should stay away from this one, considering all the negative associations of the Clintons over the years. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

    I believe that Barack has shown better judgement and leadership qualities before and during this campaign than Hillary has. There are fewer entrenched beltway status quo qualities with Barack. There is no telling what Hillary or Barack will do if either gets elected. However, I believe that Barack is far more likely to execise good judgement. After all the President just leads, he or she does not write the laws.
  • BrotherBill
    In regards to a third party candidate. Even though Ralph Nader espouses many good(progressive)ideas and I like him, he can not win. I repeat. He can not win! The Green Party doesn't have the organization and the money to realistically compete in the general election. The right wing media and the corporate elite will manipulate Ralph Naders candidacy to ensure a Republican victory in the fall. If the MSM can effectively black out true progressives like Dennis Kucinich who espouse many of the same ideas as Ralph Nader, there is no telling what they could do to divide an already divided Democratic Party. The time for progressives to get behind a third party candidate has got to be long before the general election. There needs to be a plan and a coordinated grass roots movement. We have a grass roots movement with Barack and it isn't going away anytime soon. I believe that what progressives need to do is concentrate on taking back the Democratic Party, not abandon it for a ego driven pipe dream. The Naderites need to get real and help us in the Congressional fight for more progressive candidates. If we lose this election, then we should talk about a third party. Because that will mean that the Democratic Party imploded before the general election in November. Are you willing to risk four more years of John McChain(McBush)and one hundred years in Iraq? I'm not! There may not be any Constitution and free and fair elections left by the time the next election rolls around.
  • I believe that there is no issue more important than the decision to bomb and kill innocent beings -- particularly in a war of choice. We were lied to to get into war. I knew it when I saw those cooked up pictures of a van that COlin Powell said hid chemical weapons. All this when UN inspectors were saying there were no chemical weapons or threats to attack the US {Al Quida related or not]. Obama had the judgement to speak out against this war, but both Obama and McCain voted for it. 'Nuff said.
  • @T
    BrotherBill writes:
    "I believe that what progressives need to do is concentrate on taking back the Democratic Party, not abandon it for a ego driven pipe dream."
    -----
    Taking back the Democratic Party (which is corrupt from the county central-committee level right up to the Pelosi plane) will best be done by INSISTING, by any means necessary, on the nomination of John Edwards -- not Al Gore, who's being pushed on network teevee today as a "compromise" candidate. If he hadn't been alternately ridiculed and frozen out by the corporate media and the Democratic "leadership", Edwards would already BE the nominee (and Edwards, unlike some accomodationists on the "left", has refrained -- God bless him! -- from endorsing either of these corporate frauds).

    I want to pass on something which was posted by "Mike in Texas", who blogs at abc:

    "Long but worth the read, every statement footnoted:

    Just Embellished Words: Senator Obama’s Record of Exaggerations & Misstatements (**Various noted sources)

    Once again, the Obama campaign is getting caught saying one thing while doing another. They are personally attacking Hillary even though Sen. Obama has been found mispeaking and embellishing facts about himself more than ten times in recent months. Senator Obama’s campaign is based on words – not a record of deeds – and if those words aren’t backed up by facts, there’s not much else left.

    “Senator Obama has called himself a constitutional professor, claimed credit for passing legislation that never left committee, and apparently inflated his role as a community organizer among other issues. When it comes to his record, just words won’t do. Senator Obama will have to use facts as well,” Clinton spokesman Phil Singer said.

    Sen. Obama consistently and falsely claims that he was a law professor. The Sun-Times reported that, “Several direct-mail pieces issued for Obama’s primary [Senate] campaign said he was a law professor at the University of Chicago. He is not. He is a senior lecturer (now on leave) at the school. In academia, there is a vast difference between the two titles. Details matter.” In academia, there’s a significant difference: professors have tenure while lecturers do not. [Hotline Blog, 4/9/07; Chicago Sun-Times, 8/8/04]

    Obama claimed credit for nuclear leak legislation that never passed. “Obama scolded Exelon and federal regulators for inaction and introduced a bill to require all plant owners to notify state and local authorities immediately of even small leaks. He has boasted of it on the campaign trail, telling a crowd in Iowa in December that it was ‘the only nuclear legislation that I’ve passed.’ ‘I just did that last year,’ he said, to murmurs of approval. A close look at the path his legislation took tells a very different story. While he initially fought to advance his bill, even holding up a presidential nomination to try to force a hearing on it, Mr. Obama eventually rewrote it to reflect changes sought by Senate Republicans, Exelon and nuclear regulators. The new bill removed language mandating prompt reporting and simply offered guidance to regulators, whom it charged with addressing the issue of unreported leaks. Those revisions propelled the bill through a crucial committee. But, contrary to Mr. Obama’s comments in Iowa, it ultimately died amid parliamentary wrangling in the full Senate.” [New York Times, 2/2/08]

    Obama misspoke about his being conceived because of Selma. “Mr. Obama relayed a story of how his Kenyan father and his Kansan mother fell in love because of the tumult of Selma, but he was born in 1961, four years before the confrontation at Selma took place. When asked later, Mr. Obama clarified himself, saying: ‘I meant the whole civil rights movement.’” [New York Times, 3/5/07]

    LA Times: Fellow organizers say Sen. Obama took too much credit for his community organizing efforts. “As the 24-year-old mentor to public housing residents, Obama says he initiated and led efforts that thrust Altgeld’s asbestos problem into the headlines, pushing city officials to call hearings and a reluctant housing authority to start a cleanup. But others tell the story much differently. They say Obama did not play the singular role in the asbestos episode that he portrays in the best-selling memoir ‘Dreams From My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance.’ Credit for pushing officials to deal with the cancer-causing substance, according to interviews and news accounts from that period, also goes to a well-known preexisting group at Altgeld Gardens and to a local newspaper called the Chicago Reporter. Obama does not mention either one in his book.” [Los Angeles Times, 2/19/07]

    Chicago Tribune: Obama’s assertion that nobody had indications Rezko was engaging in wrongdoing ’strains credulity.’ “…Obama has been too self-exculpatory. His assertion in network TV interviews last week that nobody had indications Rezko was engaging in wrongdoing strains credulity: Tribune stories linked Rezko to questionable fundraising for Gov. Rod Blagojevich in 2004 — more than a year before the adjacent home and property purchases by the Obamas and the Rezkos.” [Chicago Tribune editorial, 1/27/08]

    Obama was forced to revise his assertion that lobbyists ‘won’t work in my White House.’ “White House hopeful Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) was forced to revise a critical stump line of his on Saturday — a flat declaration that lobbyists ‘won’t work in my White House’ after it turned out his own written plan says they could, with some restrictions… After being challenged on the accuracy of what he has been saying — in contrast to his written pledge — at a news conference Saturday in Waterloo, Obama immediately softened what had been his hard line in his next stump speech.” [Chicago Sun-Times, 12/16/07]

    FactCheck.org: ‘Selective, embellished and out-of-context quotes from newspapers pump up Obama’s health plan.’ “Obama’s ad touting his health care plan quotes phrases from newspaper articles and an editorial, but makes them sound more laudatory and authoritative than they actually are. It attributes to The Washington Post a line saying Obama’s plan would save families about $2,500. But the Post was citing the estimate of the Obama campaign and didn’t analyze the purported savings independently. It claims that “experts” say Obama’s plan is “the best.” “Experts” turn out to be editorial writers at the Iowa City Press-Citizen – who, for all their talents, aren’t actual experts in the field. It quotes yet another newspaper saying Obama’s plan “guarantees coverage for all Americans,” neglecting to mention that, as the article makes clear, it’s only Clinton’s and Edwards’ plans that would require coverage for everyone, while Obama’s would allow individuals to buy in if they wanted to.” [FactCheck.org, 1/3/08]

    Sen. Obama said ‘I passed a law that put Illinois on a path to universal coverage,’ but Obama health care legislation merely set up a task force. ”As a state senator, I brought Republicans and Democrats together to pass legislation insuring 20,000 more children. And 65,000 more adults received health care…And I passed a law that put Illinois on a path to universal coverage.” The State Journal-Register reported in 2004 that “The [Illinois State] Senate squeaked out a controversial bill along party lines Wednesday to create a task force to study health-care reform in Illinois. […] In its original form, the bill required the state to offer universal health care by 2007. That put a ‘cloud’ over the legislation, said Sen. Dale Righter, R-Mattoon. Under the latest version, the 29-member task force would hold at least five public hearings next year.” [Obama Health Care speech, 5/29/07; State Journal-Register, 5/20/04]

    ABC News: ‘Obama…seemed to exaggerate the legislative progress he made’ on ethics reform. “ABC News’ Teddy Davis Reports: During Monday’s Democratic presidential debate, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., seemed to exaggerate the legislative progress he has made on disclosure of “bundlers,” those individuals who aggregate their influence with the candidate they support by collecting $2,300 checks from a wide network of wealthy friends and associates. When former Alaska Sen. Mike Gravel alleged that Obama had 134 bundlers, Obama responded by telling Gravel that the reason he knows how many bundlers he has raising money for him is “because I helped push through a law this past session to disclose that.” Earlier this year, Obama sponsored an amendment [sic] in the Senate requiring lobbyists to disclose the candidates for whom they bundle. Obama’s amendment would not, however, require candidates to release the names of their bundlers. What’s more, although Obama’s amendment was agreed to in the Senate by unanimous consent, the measure never became law as Obama seemed to suggest. Gravel and the rest of the public know how many bundlers Obama has not because of a ‘law’ that the Illinois Democrat has ‘pushed through’ but because Obama voluntarily discloses that information.” [ABC News, 7/23/07]

    Obama drastically overstated Kansas tornado deaths during campaign appearance. “When Sen. Barack Obama exaggerated the death toll of the tornado in Greensburg, Kan, during his visit to Richmond yesterday, The Associated Press headline rapidly evolved from ‘Obama visits former Confederate capital for fundraiser’ to ‘Obama rips Bush on Iraq war at Richmond fundraiser’ to ‘Weary Obama criticizes Bush on Iraq, drastically overstates Kansas tornado death toll’ to ‘Obama drastically overstates Kansas tornado deaths during campaign appearance.’ Drudge made it a banner, ensuring no reporter would miss it. [politico.com, 5/9/07]

    With Thanks to Jane"
  • Abu Zeina
    @T (above) slams Obama for, among other things, associating with Tony Rezko. For a charming picture of Rezko with the Clinton First Couple, and some background on Senator Clinton's relationship with Rezko check out the NY Times: http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/25/t...

    BonnieRionda (above, 8:05 pm)says, "If I weren’t so incensed about your “progressive” slamming of Hillary Clinton, I could potentially and whole-heartedly support Obama." With the suggestion that Senator Obama is unfit to be Commander-in-Chief, I would remind BonnieRionda that Senator Clinton has been doing some slamming of her own.
  • "...the fact that Barack Obama openly defines himself as a centrist invites the formation of this progressive force within his coalition. Anything less could allow his eventual drift towards the right as the general election approaches."

    It's no wonder progressives get nowhere in American politics with this kind of thinking. Having just given away any leverage you might have had, you proclaim that now we have leverage! Just how do you propose to move Obama off the yellow line in the middle of the road, now that you've assured him of your support, no matter what? Just how do you expect to mobilize people to put pressure on him, now that you've given up pressuring him? He doesn't have my vote, and won't, until he adopts positions supported by the majority of Americans: get out of Iraq -- completely, now; stop sabre-rattling at Iran; universal, single-payer health care; meaningful regulation of Wall Street; tax the rich, not the poor; take serious steps to deal with global warming; get big money out of politics -- the list goes on and on, and on none of these issues does Obama (or Clinton) take the American people seriously. So? In this, as on Iran, their attitude seems to be just more Dick Cheney.

    And you're willing to give away your vote?! Come folks. Grow up. You do this predictably, every four years. Where has it gotten you and us? If this is PDA, I quit.
  • Susan_B
  • bobnbama
    Oh Hill, the call is in and you've lost sweetie. I suggest you Clintonites vote for Mister Magoo so you can lose twice in one year, penheads. Go murder some Iraqis for Halliburton and Hunt Oil contracts. Happy Hunting hunter-gatherers!!
  • regenbogen
    Are you kidding? Hillary is the more electable candidate. She is the one who can beat McCain in November, not ol' empty suit Obama. He has not done one thing to show that he is ready to be POTUS! Go Hillary!
  • JMG
    I thought Mr. Obama's speech comment on Wright's remarks were pretty good, but I believe, also, that he like Clinton will, once elected,
    conduct foreign policy intrigue. Meaning, once again we will not know what our governments sends around in our name; we won't know, that is,
    unto what we have sent around comes around. Then we will be left to our idiotic expression, "They hate us because we are free."

    I have not heard Mr. Obama direct any coherant remarks about the great issues that we face today. "CHANGE" is an answer to nothing, as George Bush, the great changer has shown us.

    So once again we have ourselves in the position of voting to defend against the absurd--this time in Senator McCain. Once again, we are in the position of saying absurdly, "Well. . . in a perfect world we would vote for Nader," but," as we are forever quick to say, "this is not a perfect world." Ok then, . . . let's wait for the world to be perfect.
  • duboisb
    Obama is a FRAUD. He is the worst thing that ever happened to the progressive movement.

    Here is a man who promises to keep 60,000 troops permanently in Iraq to protect the embassy and American contractors (huh?). He promises to invade Pakistan. He is a supporter of NAFTA (despite his words, he will not repeal it and voted for the Peru free trade treaty). He is the servant of Big Coal industry. He would be an environmental nightmare. Mr. Global Warming himself.

    He supports nuclear power and is in the hip pocket of the nuclear industry.

    He is a mealy mouthed coward.

    He unilaterally supports Israel's fascist treatment of the Arab world. He caves into the pharmaceutical industry.

    Obama-Clinton-McCain. There's all corporate thugs. But Obama is the worst because he pretends to be a progressive. He has turning hope into nothing more than a marketing slogan for Big Coal, Nuclear Power, the corporate agenda and business as usual. Look at his policies and not his words. The man is a liar. He is to the right of Richard Nixon.
  • chris g
    Progressives, remember the big picture please. PDA has an important unique role to play now. Let's make it now our public policy to--commit now to work vigorously together, in mutual respect, to replace through the November elections the worst Republicans and their appointees. In true solidarity dear brothers and sisters------chris g
  • Billinsandiego
    Unfortunately Hillary Clinton cannot fund her Healthcare Plan, no matter how good it might be. This is because she likely has no intention of the U.S. withdrawal from Iraq - a Trillion Dollar drain on our economy. Her excuse for supporting the war in first place continues to be extremely weak. There were several Democrats opposed to the resolution who presented sound arguments against the measure yet she voted in favor. This is not an old, tired argument, Bush's Iraq War still gnaws at the heart of any current and foreign and domestic initiatives. Until we withdraw from Iraq, we cannot afford any new programs. And Senator Clinton does not convince me that she yet sees the Iraq War as a crime against both the American and Iraqi people. I was almost ready to start believing that she had changed her thinking. But I became convinced she hadn't when I saw her "3:00 AM phone call" ad. This was her pronouncement that she was ready to bomb more people with no more evidence than a phone call in the middle of the night.
    Senator Obama was right in the beginning and is right now.
  • @T
    "Obama praised George H.W. Bush - father of the president - for the way he handled the Persian Gulf War”

    See “Obama Aligns Foreign Policy With GOP”
    Devlin Barrett, AP

    Let’s see: this guy is allied with mobsters, can’t think on his feet, seems to have a problem with women, doesn’t have any appreciable “politics” about the poor in general or impoverished people of color in particular, AND supports the first stage of the Bushes’ racist perma-war on Muslims/Arabs.

    Explain again why progressives are supposed to support this fraud? Hopefully the Democrats will come to their senses and nominate John Edwards.

    Otherwise, if the whole “democratic” deal splinters and McCain or whoever is elected, it’s very damn difficult to see what difference it makes.
  • There's a lot of sharp disagreement here, but there's one thing I won't let pass without a challenge, and that's repeating the far right's racist assault on the Rev Wright as a racist and Trinty UCC as a racist church.

    Neither is true, and if you don't believe me, log on to the Chicago Tribune and read piece by one of there regular columnists, who is also a member of Trinity.

    I have been in Obama's church when I lived in Chicago.

    It has thousands of members, mostly Black, but many white, too, and is a powerful force for good, widely recognized by everyone

    And I have heard the Rev. Jeremiah Wright deliver fiery sermons. The only hatred in them is hatred of white supremacy and the hypocrisy of top political leaders, not white people in general, just as Jesus denounced the hypocrites of his day as 'a generation of vipers.' Look it up.

    I'll admit Rev Wright makes sinners feel uncomfortable, as a good preacher should, but he combines anger with the sin with love for the sinner. And I don't have to defend every word out of his mouth over forty years to see that he is a remarkable and good man. Just find a few sermons of his and read or listen ALL THE WAY THROUGH before you judge him on the red meat snippets tossed to you by Fox, Rush and Hannity, who have their own agenda, and could care less for your soul.

    We shouldn't let this stuff stand in the GOP, let alone here.
  • humanbeing
    Right on, Tom, Bill, Barb, and Danny! Power to the People!
    The root cause of our social injustice is corporate personhood, which needs to be abolished ASAP.

    "The right to petition the government is the freedom of individuals to petition their government for a correction or repair of some form of injustice without fear of punishment for the same." - from wikipedia.

    It has become increasingly obvious that some private corporate interests and the financial "masters of the universe" have had far too much influence on our government, and have brought our great economy down to it's knees. While we are losing jobs, homes, health, liberties and freedoms, it is appropriate to resolve the controversy over "corporate personhood".

    Corporate personhood began in our courts during the 1800s, it was never really defined in the constitution. The courts extended the rights of the individual to legal entities called corporations.
    Per wikipedia, "Since the mid-1800s, corporate personhood has become increasingly controversial, as courts have extended other rights to the corporation beyond those necessary to ensure their liability for debts."

    Today, the individuals of America have to compete with powerful global corporate lobbies and influences when we petition our government to represent our interests.
    To further aggravate the problem, the corporations have gone global, with far flung interests all over the world. They do not necessarily represent America's best interests. In fact, American workers are at a disadvantage to global outsourcing.

    I think it is time to take back our individual rights, and abolish the current court mandated concept of corporate personhood. We should be a country of and by the PEOPLE - as our constitution defines it.
  • humanbeing
    I am very dissappointed to see so much negativity in this forum, in this brave effort to create some positive change.
    Our world does not need one more drop of negativity, hatred, or destructive attacks upon each other.
    We are all responsible for what we are and what we do.
    Be positive.

    It is time for each and every one of us to decide for ourselves.
    Will you be a part of the solution, not a part of the problem?

    It is time to get down, and get on with it, brothers and sisters!
    Come together, and create our own new reality.
  • As for Obama, I am not convinced he is our great hope. He too has accepted money from corporations, given out earmarks, such as $8 million to General Dynamics, a weapons producer. And he voted to fund a war that he claims he opposes. His health care plan includes the insurance companies, the very entities that are responsible for the huge health-care costs.
  • Today, the individuals of America have to compete with powerful global corporate lobbies and influences when we petition our government to represent our interests.
    To further aggravate the problem, the corporations have gone global, with far flung interests all over the world. They do not necessarily represent America's best interests. In fact, American workers are at a disadvantage to global outsourcing.
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